Sam asked Amanda what her hobbies are and she said “work and physical therapy.” Sam was not satisfied with this answer.
So we recorded an entire episode where Sam tries to figure out why Amanda can’t just do things for the sake of doing them.
We talk about how high achievers struggle to do anything without perceived value. How hobbies don’t have to be creative. They could be Wikipedia deep dives, board games, birdwatching. Anything that lets your brain rest.
This leads to rabbit holes about Amanda’s uncool birthday parties growing up (where she made people do choreographed dances), how she won’t let her toddler paint because of the mess, which means she’s probably giving her trauma.
